Lolol Waffles

Lolol Waffles

Harpalyce:

Let me see if I can articulate how I feel about Legendaries by explain
how I feel about my Binding and, one hopes, the Thunderfury which we
will soon have from it.

A Legendary weapon is NOT just a drop you roll on.

It’s not crafted gear you give to a tank or healer so they have better FR.

A Legendary is a symbol.  It’s something the raid rewards you with
as a way of saying, “thanks for your time, your hard work, your
dedication.”

This is how I look at my lone Binding.  Every time I see it there
in my bags (I look at it a lot, sometimes even in combat) it makes me
think of all the time we’ve spent together, and the fact that SOMEONE
ELSE, not me, but SOMEONE ELSE stated “When we get our first Binding,
it goes to Harp,” and so many of you spoke up in agreement.

Will it make the raid stronger my having that?  Sure.

Will it make me a better tank?  Maybe a little.  But that’s not REALLY the point of a Legendary, now is it?

The point, as I view it, is you’re recognizing someone’s
contribution to the raid.  YES, it should go to someone who will get
the best use out of it, but it should also go to someone who’s given a
lot.

I believe that’s why the Pallies — when they spoke — picked
Arnth.  Not just b/c he’s a Retnub who would put the hammer to good
use, but because he’s been here, getting his ass kicked in the core,
from back when we figured we were going in to get our asses kicked and
didn’t care.

A Legendary is a symbol — look at all the other Oranges which have
been awarded to PAA folks and you’ll see a lot of the same attitude —
and we should keep that in mind.

Should a person have a lot of runs with Waffles?  I think so.
 Should that person be somebody who leads, and helps to lead?  I think
so.  Should that person be somebody who’s put forth effort in and out
of MC, on our behalf, someone who gives of themselves?

Well, why the hell not?

At this moment, maybe some of you are thinking of Onassi and maybe
thinking bad thoughts.  Yes, he took a break and yes, now he’s back.
 To you I will say that the ORIGINAL conversation which turned into MC
Waffles took place between Onassi and I one day in EPL.  We were trying
to pull together a Strat run, talking about KFR Ony and raiding, and he
whispers me:

“Hey, I’ve got a crazy idea.”

“Okay.”

“Molten fucking core.”

“Ohhh yeah.”

We weren’t ready for it yet, and it was at least another month
before we even looked into doing that, but when we did, he was there to
bring the pain.

Our MC run went in undergeared and with not much idea what we were
getting into.  We spent what, four weeks wiping on Ragnaros, once we
finally got to him?  Now we’ve got BWL running and a little Naxx trash
on the way.  By all rights, we should not be where we are, and yet we
are.

When you talk about awarding something like a Binding or an Eye,
ask yourself some questions.  Yes, I know you want it, and I
understand.  But think about the other folks in the run and ask
yourself if you want it for you or for them.

Rule # 1 in MC Waffles is, “OUR loot is more important than YOUR
loot.”  That means when we’re looting, we try to put the raid, the
group first.  I’d love to see each and every one of you get each and
every piece of loot you could ever want and more.  I hope to be raiding
with y’all when we get to 70 and (heaven help me) beyond.  For that to
happen I think we need to all keep in mind that your gear is on your
‘toon because 39 other people took their time on a Sunday to go play a
game.

Let’s try to be fair and equitable in this and in all things we do.
 If we get another big, fat Orange piece of loot, let’s try to put it
someplace where folks looking in on us can see that we’re rewarding
someone that we agree deserves to be rewarded.

I dunno.  Maybe I’m just a sentimental schmuck, though, and I could be wrong.

Torped:

I think that it should work just like pants (but with some exercised judgement).

Let me explain.

So we establish a pecking order for various legendary items. It’s hard
because it can’t be an AP system, people would feel cheated. It’s
harder because people can’t reliably pass to each other without hard
feelings. Making a solid, non AP, run based system? Not too hard and
people can’t argue with the numbers.

I didn’t see what the huge deal was with the eye. If people had
pegged the eye as paladin loot, that made it loads easier. Then there
was a pecking order. Arnth, then Onassi. Arnth wasn’t there (and that
probably should have been the end of that argument as the eye binds).
People started getting all crazy and wanting /random rolls when things
seemed pretty laid out to me. Props to Harp for taking care of issues
as they came up.

I’m inclined (very much) to agree that an orange item is a symbol of
status. You get a lot of /inspects when you’ve got that Thunderfury
trail or the hammer on your back. It would be great to be ready to give
those items to the people who had done great things for the raid but
not very possible. You’ll end up with hurt feelings and drama as
everyone thinks they’ve done something great and are deserving of some
recognition. Note that of the entire raid, we can all only agree that
this type of stuff can go to Harp. Beyond that, people start to get a
little sore in their respective class channels. A system should very
much be in place (and nothing makes more sense than a count of
MC/BWL/Naxx/TTC-flavored Waffles runs).

<Insert obligatory “Just my opinion” statement>

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